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Trevor Hammond Uncovers a Hidden Opportunity and Walks Away With a Lifetime of Commissions and Referrals

Trevor Hammond of Makena Financial Strategies in Portland, Oregon is a thriving Mortgage Coach member. Recently, he sat down with a client who had been referred to him by one of his financial planner partners and created a loan where originally there was none. This is the key to success in a marketplace like the one we’re in today.

BIG IDEA:
The client featured in this case study call had no intentions of refinancing their mortgage and insisted they would not change their mind. After showing them how they could save money, generate liquidity and increase their net worth, they not only agreed that a refinancing was the best option for them, but because of their total buy-in, Trevor now has a new “raving fan” client and a referral machine for life, which was proven by the referral he received from them in less than 30 days. This is also a prime example of how to turn one loan into two.

PROBLEM/SOLUTION:
The husband had just sold a large amount of stock and wanted to use the proceeds to pay off their mortgage. But the financial planner didn’t want them to make a hasty decision so he convinced them to meet with Trevor to review their options. 

In a Total Cost Analysis report, the client uncovered a hidden opportunity that would increase their net worth over their lifetime. They went from doubting disbelievers to totally committed believers in one meeting.

KEY TAKEAWAYS:
* Trevor doesn’t differentiate on product. Instead, he teaches his clients how to use the mortgage as a financial planning tool.
* He follows every critical question with ‘why’, and keeps repeating the why until he has successfully uncovered the core of the problem. 
* The key to Trevor’s success is how he positions himself as the invaluable “debt management arm” of his financial planner partners’ business.
* In addition to creating value for the client, Trevor also adds value to his referral partners’ value proposition.
* In this particular case, in addition to generating value for himself, Trevor also generated new business for his financial planner partner. That’s how you keep referrals flowing.

Not only did Trevor turn this client a complete 180 degrees, but he received a referral from them within 30 days. Listen to this call and you will walk away excited and motivated.

Click on the player below to listen to the conversation between Trevor Hammond and myself.

or you can download it here grab the 57Mb file here

Jeff Thull’s “Exceptional Selling” Ideas Will Get You More Loans Overnight

I read a lot of books, and a little over a year ago I read Exceptional Selling by Jeff Thull, a leading sales and marketing strategist. Jeff is a world-renowned motivator, speaker, trainer and author who works with Fortune 500 companies such as Microsoft, Bank of America and IBM. His ideas are thought-provoking and absolutely award winning.

This book, one of three he’s written, left such a profound impression on me that I immediately went to work trying to get Jeff to do a one-on-one interview so that Mortgage Coach members could benefit from his proven ideas and strategies. I’m thrilled and honored to present our conversation here today.

Jeff evangelizes a term he calls “diagnosis selling”, which he says takes “consultative selling” to the next level.

In this conversation, Jeff offers more than a dozen successful strategies, including:

* His “rule of two” and how it can give you a competitive edge
* Three common challenges to the sales process and how to overcome them
* The most important questions you need to ask your customers to win their trust
* Key mistakes salespeople often make, including:
      - assuming that the customer understands the problem they want to solve
      - answering an unasked question
* The key question you need to ask yourself
* Specific customer feedback that shows you are diagnosing correctly
* How to avoid what Jeff calls “dangling insults”

Jeff’s methods are proven to work with some of the world’s most successful selling organizations. His ideas are simple and can be implemented quickly and easily. I highly recommend you listen to this interview as one of your first steps toward improving your business in the new year. 

Click here to listen to the conversation between myself and Jeff Thull.

or you can download grab the 46Mb file here

Click here to go to Jeff’s website.

Click here to ask me questions about this best practice conversation.

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Part II: Jonathan Klein Answers More than 50 Questions About His Divorce Planning Service

On November 27th, I wrote a blog post featuring an interview I recorded with Jonathan Klein about his Divorce Planning consulting service, in which he charges a $1,000 retainer fee above and beyond receiving loan commissions.

In all my recorded interviews, I always ask my featured guest for an email address in case people have questions, but this interview in particular generated a record number of more than 50 inquiries.

In fact, there were so many questions — and we thought they were so important — that I recorded a follow-up call with Jonathan so you can hear his answers to each question.

In this call, he answers questions about:

  • How he gets his leads
  • The elevator pitch he uses to generate referrals from psychologists and attorneys
  • How he collects the retainer
  • Under what moniker he runs his divorce planning consulting business
  • How he ensures that this part of his business is in compliance
  • Whether he reviews the information with the referral partner who sent him the business
  • Which programs he uses in Mortgage Coach for this service
  • The importance of the Marketing Machine in his ability to close the sale
  • The common objections he receives from attorneys and psychologists…and more

This is an innovative breakthrough service that takes Jonathan’s business above and beyond earning a loan commission and helps shield his business from the challenges of today’s market.

You may find that a divorce planning service is appropriate for you. Or, it may even spark another idea for a service you can offer your clients. Either way, you and your team are bound to learn a lot from this call. I recommend that you listen to this interview at your next sales meeting. 

Click on the player below to listen to the follow-up interview between myself and Jonathan Klein.

Click here to email Jonathan with any additional questions.

Learn How Louise Thaxton More Than Triples Her Business From 74 Units to 270 Units in One Year

If you think that mortgage advisors only cater to the affluent, then I strongly urge you to listen to this call. Louise Thaxton of Many, Louisiana caters to the masses — not to the mass affluent — and recently used her mortgage advice to more than triple her business from 74 units to 270 in just one year.

She has a very unique story. When Hurricane Katrina hit, her husband lost his business. Louise, who was only working part-time, needed to support the family while her husband rebuilt. In just one year, she went from being an app taker to a Mortgage Coach enthusiast. Her average loan is $125,000 and the majority of her customers, who are generated primarily through Realtor referrals, are in the military. While 90% of her clients are eligible for VA loans, she recommends both VA and conventional mortgages, depending on what’s right for the client, and is currently excited about FHA loans.

BIG IDEA:
Louise shows her clients how different mortgage strategies can help them build equity faster. Most military personnel want to use their VA loan eligibility to buy a home, but that isn’t necessarily the best solution for everyone. Louise uses the Total Cost Analysis report to help her clients clearly see and understand how different mortgage strategies impact their equity over the first 1-3 years.

PROBLEM:
A recent client, a military officer, was stationed on assignment in the area for a period of one year. She wanted to purchase a home using a loan instrument that would give her the most possible equity at the end of the year when she planned to put the house on the market.

SOLUTION:
For this client, Louise presents three mortgage options, putting the VA loan in the first position so the client sees that Louise heard and understood her needs. In this example, even though the client came in looking for a VA loan, the loan that would generate the most equity at the end of the term turned out to be a conventional one. Louise not only won the client’s business but also her trust because she clearly presented the total cost and the benefits and drawbacks of each loan.

KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS CALL:
* Hear Louise’s strategy for winning over Realtor referrals;
* Listen to the key questions Louise asks to first secure a homeowner’s trust, and then their business;
* Learn how Louise totally separates herself from every other loan officer in her local marketplace by highlighting the equity growth in different loan programs;
* Hear the core values that drive her success;
* Hear how Louise opened up this client’s mind to consider all her options and choose the right mortgage for her situation — both today and in the future;
* Follow along as Louise explains how she created her brochure in the Marketing Machine to directly fit the market she serves;
* Learn how Louise helps the real heroes — the military men and women of our country — and becomes a mortgage industry hero in the process.

Louise Thaxton is thriving in a middle-American market. She really cares about her customers and believes wholeheartedly in the value of the advice she gives, and it shows in her success.

Click below to listen to a short 20-minute interview between Dave Savage and Louise Thaxton.

or you can download grab the 22Mb file here

Click here to download the PDF of Louise’s mortgage advisory package for this specific client case study.

Email Louise with any additional questions.

Learn How a Loan Officer in Salt Lake City, Utah Is Generating a $1,997 Fee for Teaching Homeowners How to Manage Their Money and Build Wealth

Garrett White of The Investors Paradigm in Salt Lake City, Utah is one of the most passionate and innovative mortgage professionals  I have ever interviewed. He’s got some ground-breaking ideas for helping his clients achieve their wealth goals. He’s as much a life coach as he is a loan officer, and if you want to truly make a difference in your life and your customers’ lives, listen to this recorded interview. Garrett may just inspire you to change the way you do business.

BIG IDEA:
Garrett teaches homeowners how to manage not only their investment in their home but their investment in their lives. And, he charges a $1,997 fee for this consulting service.

THE CHALLENGE:
There is no better time than right now to be a mortgage advisor, because the ‘perfect storm’ of elimination is weeding out what Garrett calls the ‘fakers’ aka “app takers”. The homeowners who fell victim to this group have been abandoned and abused. They need a partner they can trust. Mortgage advisors who take the time to educate homeowners on how to secure their future and create personal wealth will be the winners.

THE SOLUTION:
Garrett offers a 7-step program called “The Full Investors Experience” that teaches homeowners to think and act like a bank. The end result is freedom in all areas of their life that create wealth.

KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS CALL:
* He’ll reveal his secrets for cultivating and securing financial planning referral partners.
* Garrett will walk you through his 7-step program using a brochure he created for a particular client with the Marketing Machine and the Equity Repositioning Analysis report.
* He’ll disclose the three-step process he uses to learn everything he needs to know about the client and win their trust.
* You’ll be able to follow along in a real-life case study as Garrett details step by step how he moved this client from cold prospect to closed sale.

Garrett is committed to saving lives and to helping homeowners make intelligent informed decisions. In return, clients willingly pay him a $1,997 consulting fee for teaching them how to manage their home equity and achieve financial wealth. His unique mortgage planning ideas may not be right for everyone, but they could be right for you.

Click on the player below to listen to this interview between Dave Savage and Garrett White.

or you can download grab the 56Mb file here

Click here to download the PDF of Garrett’s 7-step program made with the Marketing Machine.

To contact Garrett with additional questions email deb@theinvestorsparadigm.com.

Brian Is Off to a Great Start!

As we kick off 2008, I thought the email below that I received might inspire you - notice the date of email, it just came in. Remember not all ideas are equal; some ideas deliver small results over time and some deliver breakthrough results overnight…obviously Brian is doing the right things to kick-off 2008.

If you're having trouble viewing the email, click on the image to enlarge.

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Brian Koss Offers Great Advice About Setting Goals and Building Motivation for 2008

In his blog, industry leader and Mortgage Coach power user Brian Koss offers some great advice for building a winning plan for 2008. Take a few moments to read his post on Dec. 29th. It will motivate you to get organized and enthused about your future business.


Click here to read Brian’s Dec. 29th blog post.

What Is Your Plan for Success in 2008?

This is a guest blog post from Ron Quintero

As I finished reading Dave’s recent blog post and the many comments that followed I was compelled to write this follow up post:

What vortex are you In? I recently watched an interview with Terrell Owens, Dallas Cowboy fans know him as TO. Allow me to first to state that I am not a Cowboys fan, nor an Eagles fan, nor a TO fan, but I am intrigued by his recent turn-around or resurrection.

In the past, he played for the Philadelphia Eagles and during that period of time, it was a nightmare to watch the Eagles play if you enjoyed team sports. There was dissention on the team, the players argued and showed their distain for one another in public. They argued almost to the point where they were ready to physically fight one another. TO was extremely vocal and most football fans – most team sports fans – did not appreciate that type of public display of dissatisfaction being broadcast to the world.
Most people saw Owens as an individualist, a non-team player, arrogant, self-centered, all the negative labels. Most so-called experts – the “talking heads” on ESPN – were so disgusted with his public displays and verbal attacks on his team members, coaches and owners of the company that many said “who would pick this guy up?” Who would want them in their locker room?

Well the Cowboys picked him up and WOW, what a turn around. First of all, the Cowboys have not been a real NFL contender for years. Now they have won over 90% of their games They are going to the play-offs and many consider TO’s contributions one of several contributing factors. He is reported as being a team leader in the locker room, a spirit of encouragement for the team both on and off the field. In the interview, a statement was made referring to the past and then the question was asked “what was or is the difference?” He said “I was caught up in a vortex of negativity and once it started, it was hard to get it to stop.”
vor•tex  - pronunciation [vawr-teks] 

  1. A whirling mass of water or air esp. one in which a force of suction operates as a whirlpool. One in the form of a visible column or spiral, as a tornado.
  2. A state of affairs likened to a whirlpool for violent activity, irresistible force, etc.
  3. Something regarded as drawing into its powerful, current everything that surrounds it:

I sat back and thought to myself “you know, our industry is caught up in a Negativity Vortex as well right now.” With all the bad news, with the purchase marketplace pulling back in many markets by as much as 25 to 40% when measuring the number of purchase loan opportunities, when refinance opportunities have dropped off by over 60%, in the face of those two major pullbacks, we should expect to feel some pain. Oh, did I mention the easy to sell product going away? The real problem in the marketplace today is that our industry got spoiled with cheap, easy-to-qualify-for money. It made us lazy, we forgot the basics of blocking and tackling, developing relationships and not taking the past market conditions for granted. 

Many within our industry attempt to define “commodity trap” as rate and cost, but I do not define it that way. Many originators that were making huge profits selling subprime or Alt A loans were also in a commodity trap – they became too dependant on a product and, let’s be honest, most in our industry, if they can find a way to sell a product without having to do any hard work, they are all for it. 

On page 236 of Al and Laura Ries’ book “The Origin of Brands”, it says “what does customer loyalty REALLY mean?” Their answer and I buy into it…”In practice, customer loyalty means that your customers are willing to do business with you even though they can buy the same products or services at a lower price (or better quality) somewhere else.”  WOW. That is it.

So many are waiting around for a rate drop or another refinance wave to only temporarily stop their current pain only to revisit it once the wave is gone again.  STOP THE INSANITY. 
Change your vortex. It’s simple. The more people you meet, the luckier you get. What is the secret of the MEGA producers? They are all master self promoters and marketers.  There is an old joke that goes…”what do you call a Realtor® that does not market? The answer: a secret agent. What do you call a lender that does not market? BROKE.  Provide a service even when you cannot see an immediate return. 

I am not going to share with you some “get rich quick” idea or some blip or dip on the market radar where you get some immediate business but you have not taken care of the long term problem. 

This is what I am currently saying to my clients and audiences:

Are you feeling some pain? The answer is YES.

My next question is, “What are you going to do to avoid that pain in the future?” 

If you are a Mortgage Coach (MC) user, start to adopt and manage mortgages EVEN IF YOU DIDN’T ORIGINATE THEM.

Develop at least two consumer direct strategies. Get your phone ringing. Others are.
In 2008, develop one partnering relationship per week and do all the things necessary to make that happen. One per week for 40 weeks, holidays excluded, you are set. I can almost guarantee you this, the STRONG majority of you either listening or reading this have not done this in the past and if you could hit the rewind button on time, you wish you would have.

The average interest rate to the consumer over the last 35 years is 9.38% according to Kiplinger’s website and MMG’s. We are at 6% possibly heading to 5 ½% next year.  Compared to the ridiculous market we just left, anything would be challenging. The economy is stable. We are not in a recession or depression, although many LOs think it is a depression because the economy is created between their two ears, in their minds.  If you can’t sell in this rate environment, get out now and save the industry for the pros that know how to make it happen.

Real estate is STILL the only tax free game in town. Living in caves is not a growing trend, there is no more land being made, we are breeding like cockroaches, millions of people are swimming across rivers, crawling over fences, risking their lives in small boats to get to our country and I don’t see anyone leaving. Get over it. Quit looking in the rear view mirror. Be grateful that so many are getting out of the business creating less competition and confusion, and reposition your business for the new market, the one that is here and will be for a few years to come. Come on gang, the industry did not go away when the 125s went away. RE-TOOL, get your head screwed on right, get committed to working twice as hard to make half as much, commit to being a survivor and in the future a THRIVER. 

This change is the great equalizer for the industry. It has put everyone at the same starting blocks and now we will get to see who tomorrow’s leaders will be. Re-commit to making 2008 the year that you will work harder than ever before, you will go the extra mile, you acknowledge that the easy money has been made and that going forward, you will put in place now all the processes and systems you wish you had put in place in 2002 so when another easy money cycle comes around you can claim your fair share – forget that, more than your fair share next time around.

The pain of discipline weighs ounces. The pain of regret weighs tons. Do what needs to get done to survive and later thrive. Commit to using the tools you already have at your disposal. If you are a current MC user, just go deeper with the program. Most MC users use one or two components of the program. Before you spend more money on new ideas, make sure you are fully deploying and taking advantage of the tools you have at your disposal now.

If you are not an MC user, well, I do not know how you plan to differentiate, stand out, tell the Total Cost story and make your competition and their marketing messages invisible. If you want to optimize your success in this marketplace you need the Mortgage Coach and you need the mindset that is passionate about uncovering hidden opportunities.  ALL of my clients use the Mortgage Coach and there is a reason. It is without a doubt the most essential and powerful tool available to the industry today, period.

I also recommend that you listen to Dave’s recent interview with Jeremy Forcier, if my recommendation alone isn’t a good enough reason to listen to this call, then let his results inspire you to listen to it today. He originated 7 new loans the day before this recorded interview, he has opened 17 new loans within three days, and he had 38 loans approved in the month of December. To top that off, he had 25 leads that he hadn’t even had enough time to call back yet. 

If you haven’t read Dave’s post and the comments to it that inspired this post, then also click here. 
My hope is that you will re-commit and take your level of success to the highest level possible throughout 2008.  Please post your challenges and success stories in the comment section below…I will be keeping my eye on this post and I will respond to questions. 

To your success,

Ron Quintero